How to create collections without registration

alexhost · 07-03-2014, 12:36 PM

Hi Guys,

I have a Kindle 4 NT Serial number B023 1701 xxx xxxx with firmware: 4.1.0.

I want to create collections but for that normally it is necessary to register it.My problem is that where I live at this moment, incredible but true, I do not have access to wireless networks.

Please help me to find a way to create collections.

crich70 · 07-04-2014, 12:52 AM

I don't think you can create collections on a Kindle without registration of the Kindle.

eschwartz · 07-04-2014, 02:38 AM

You must jailbreak to gain command-line access (KUAL+kterm, or USBNetwork), then do stuff similar to this guide for the KPW: https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=193260

the reginfo file seems to be the correct file going back a number of versions (at least since Kindle Touch versions) so it *should* work for the K4NT but no promises. WiFi will remove the false registration but I suppose by then you can register for real.

HarryT · 07-04-2014, 03:40 AM

It's an awful lot easier just to go to some place with free WiFi (MacDonalds is always a good choice), and register there. The system happily works thereafter with no WiFi.

NiLuJe · 07-04-2014, 09:10 AM

I don't remember if the K4 might not be the weird duck with the XML reginfo file...

Vroo · 07-04-2014, 09:30 AM

AFAIK, Kindle Collections plugin for Calibre allows creating collections without registration.

https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=118635

NiLuJe · 07-04-2014, 10:53 AM

I can't remember if they actually show up on an unregistered device, though...

(That's a lot of things I don't remember... ^^).

Shopaholic · 07-06-2014, 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NiLuJe

I can't remember if they actually show up on an unregistered device, though...

(That's a lot of things I don't remember... ^^).

They don't on mine. Unless I did something wrong.

NiLuJe · 07-06-2014, 08:21 PM

@Shopaholic: That sounds right, CM doesn't do anything besides creating them, if the 'block' is somewhere else, it doesn't do anything special. I vaguely remember that's how Kindle always behaved, even before the new collection backend in FW 5.x. I'm not sure, but your experience seems to confirm it.

alexhost · 07-07-2014, 08:56 AM

thank you all for try to help me!!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by eschwartz

You must jailbreak to gain command-line access (KUAL+kterm, or USBNetwork), then do stuff similar to this guide for the KPW: https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=193260

the reginfo file seems to be the correct file going back a number of versions (at least since Kindle Touch versions) so it *should* work for the K4NT but no promises. WiFi will remove the false registration but I suppose by then you can register for real.

I just read the threat you mentioned above but it's nothing easy. Someone done this specific procedure to a KINDLE 4 NT?

alexhost · 07-07-2014, 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarryT

It's an awful lot easier just to go to some place with free WiFi (MacDonalds is always a good choice), and register there. The system happily works thereafter with no WiFi.

I will be for some time in demmingen dischingen, Germany. It is a little town in the middle of nothing, where I can not find any public WIFI

alexhost · 07-07-2014, 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vroo

AFAIK, Kindle Collections plugin for Calibre allows creating collections without registration.

https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=118635

In the meantime I will give it a try with the calibre plugin

eschwartz · 07-07-2014, 09:26 AM

The plugin should work.

It makes sense since collections are kept when you deregister -- you just cannot edit them, and when you reregister they are wiped nd replaced by the new account's collections if any. So by creating collections through the plugin, or Collection Manager kindlet for touch devices, which do not respect Amazon's block, it should show up.

This was just confirmed by the Paperwhite, at least.

Tell us how it goes.

Dr. Drib · 07-07-2014, 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexhost

I will be for some time in demmingen dischingen, Germany. It is a little town in the middle of nothing, where I can not find any public WIFI

WiFi access is available at some hotels, in the town NEAR where you will be staying:

http://www.booking.com/place/de-1758357.html

Explain your situation, pay them a bit of money for their kindness, register, say 'thank you' again, and then leave with a big smile on your face.

HarryT · 07-07-2014, 11:15 AM

Finding SOMEWHERE with WiFi access (eg a cafe, or a friend with a Smartphone with a WiFi hotspot) really shouldn't be beyond the bounds of possibility these days. You only need it for a couple of minutes, and then never again.

07-03-2014, 12:36 PM	#1
alexhost Junior Member Posts: 5 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jul 2014 Device: Kindle 4 NT	How to create collections without registration Hi Guys, I have a Kindle 4 NT Serial number B023 1701 xxx xxxx with firmware: 4.1.0. I want to create collections but for that normally it is necessary to register it.My problem is that where I live at this moment, incredible but true, I do not have access to wireless networks. Please help me to find a way to create collections.

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07-04-2014, 12:52 AM	#2
crich70 Grand Sorcerer Posts: 11,305 Karma: 43993832 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Monroe Wisconsin Device: K3, Kindle Paperwhite, Calibre, and Mobipocket for Pc (netbook)	I don't think you can create collections on a Kindle without registration of the Kindle.

07-04-2014, 02:38 AM	#3
eschwartz Ex-Helpdesk Junkie Posts: 19,421 Karma: 85397180 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Beaten Path, USA, Roundworld, This Side of Infinity Device: Kindle Touch fw5.3.7 (Wifi only)	You must jailbreak to gain command-line access (KUAL+kterm, or USBNetwork), then do stuff similar to this guide for the KPW: https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=193260 the reginfo file seems to be the correct file going back a number of versions (at least since Kindle Touch versions) so it should work for the K4NT but no promises. WiFi will remove the false registration but I suppose by then you can register for real.

07-04-2014, 03:40 AM	#4
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383043 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	It's an awful lot easier just to go to some place with free WiFi (MacDonalds is always a good choice), and register there. The system happily works thereafter with no WiFi.

07-04-2014, 09:10 AM	#5
NiLuJe BLAM! Posts: 13,482 Karma: 26012494 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Paris, France Device: Kindle 2i, 3g, 4, 5w, PW, PW2, PW5; Kobo H2O, Forma, Elipsa, Sage, C2E	I don't remember if the K4 might not be the weird duck with the XML reginfo file...

07-04-2014, 09:30 AM	#6
Vroo Zealot Posts: 103 Karma: 1005242 Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Warsaw, Poland Device: a lot of Kindles, PocketBook HD3/InkpadX, inkBOOK, Kobo	AFAIK, Kindle Collections plugin for Calibre allows creating collections without registration. https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=118635

07-04-2014, 10:53 AM	#7
NiLuJe BLAM! Posts: 13,482 Karma: 26012494 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Paris, France Device: Kindle 2i, 3g, 4, 5w, PW, PW2, PW5; Kobo H2O, Forma, Elipsa, Sage, C2E	I can't remember if they actually show up on an unregistered device, though... (That's a lot of things I don't remember... ^^).

07-06-2014, 08:21 PM	#9
NiLuJe BLAM! Posts: 13,482 Karma: 26012494 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Paris, France Device: Kindle 2i, 3g, 4, 5w, PW, PW2, PW5; Kobo H2O, Forma, Elipsa, Sage, C2E	@Shopaholic: That sounds right, CM doesn't do anything besides creating them, if the 'block' is somewhere else, it doesn't do anything special. I vaguely remember that's how Kindle always behaved, even before the new collection backend in FW 5.x. I'm not sure, but your experience seems to confirm it.

07-07-2014, 09:26 AM	#13
eschwartz Ex-Helpdesk Junkie Posts: 19,421 Karma: 85397180 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Beaten Path, USA, Roundworld, This Side of Infinity Device: Kindle Touch fw5.3.7 (Wifi only)	The plugin should work. It makes sense since collections are kept when you deregister -- you just cannot edit them, and when you reregister they are wiped nd replaced by the new account's collections if any. So by creating collections through the plugin, or Collection Manager kindlet for touch devices, which do not respect Amazon's block, it should show up. This was just confirmed by the Paperwhite, at least. Tell us how it goes.

07-07-2014, 11:15 AM	#15
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383043 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	Finding SOMEWHERE with WiFi access (eg a cafe, or a friend with a Smartphone with a WiFi hotspot) really shouldn't be beyond the bounds of possibility these days. You only need it for a couple of minutes, and then never again.

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