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I've been participating here for 15 years. For 15 years it's never been clear and easy. Every now and then I get a hankerin' to liberate some books. And, in 15 years, there have been numerous times that "what once worked, no longer does". "Oh that one time Calibre broke things" isn't the only time "what once worked, stopped". Witness the 3 (at least) maintainers that I can think of off the top of my head: Apprentice Alf, Apprentice Harper, and the new NoDRM guy. And never in any of those incarnations was there a clear and easy to follow set of instructions. Just finding the "right" repository when you discover who to search for is hard enough. No one wants to make it clear, because no one wants to be a target of the publishers. I get that, and I respect the position of the mods here. So, seriously folks, stop it with the "gee, I never had a problem, it's so easy" nonsense. Look at the mega thread for all the proof one needs. |
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>> and that was a fairly long time ago when there were some major changes. I've been here 15 years - so, yes, I have the background to say "time and again what once worked, didn't and each time it's a hassle figuring it out". If it weren't there'd be no mega thread. >> Now, as long as you are somewhere near current with Calibre That's a caveat. It also matters what version of the Kindle app you are using. Hope it doesn't auto update to the new version even when you already learned that lesson and had set it to not auto update. >> (you can be an entire major version behind), DRM is not an issue. Except when it is. You realize that the versions of DRM also keep changing/improving/regressing? The author of the pluggin has changed, and thus the location of the plugins. And no, google is NOT your friend, there is a LOT of noise in that signal. >> Since Calibre and NoDRM are free, it costs you nothing to learn whetherthe particular book you care about is a problem. It costs you time. >> The current version of NoDRM works with all versions of the Kindle for PC application. So, the "last official working copy" is available from Amazon. Ah, but "the current" version is NOT the version you want to use. You want to use the beta version which now the real version as if he promoted it to the real version, emails are sent out and might draw Amazon's attention meaning that they would do something to break it. You know. Like has been going on these 15 years such that "what once worked, does not always work". And how do I know about the beta thing? It's buried deep in the mega thread. >>All file formats that can be imported into Calibre can have DRM removed. You might need to add plugins for the file formats. For now? Maybe. But that's an ever shifting state of affairs. >> Step by step (if this too much detail, mods, please nuke whatever is bad):[LIST=1][*]Install Calibre[*]Download NoDRM plugin (Google is your friend) Google is definitely NOT your friend. There's a bazillion bad results. How would you even know to search for NoDRM? >>[*]Install NoDRM plugin into Calibre (plugin install in Calibre is covered by Calibre online help) Another different place to look for and piece together the instructions. Are you keeping count? >>[*]Open NoDRM plugin configuration in Calibre[*]Follow the instructions included with the downloaded NoDRM to configure it correctly Lord knows those are as clear as mud. Which of the files in the correct repository, once you sift through and find the correct ones, is the current instructions and not hold overs from the code perviously forked? >>[*]Download book from Amazon in some way (Kindle for PC, Download and Transfer via USB, etc.) Some way? If you use a Kindle app, it has to be an old version that you can't get from Amazon anymore. You have to google to find it and hope it's not been adulterated. If you use the "Download and Transfer" option, it has to be from a Kindle device that is also old enough. And don't forget to get the serial number of your Kindle device - you do know how to get that don't your? Yeah, well, most people don't so they have to go figure that out too. And then you need to edit the plugin info (some way, I forget off the top of my head) to put in that serial number. That was this last times "thing I had forgotten and had to rediscover and re-learn". >>Import downloaded file into Calibre Totally clear and easy. Right? Just a few "yadda yadda"'s in your list and a mega thread remaining as proof that it's not at all clear and simple. |
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I concur with everything you said - and I AM a technically literate person. I am a software developer. And it's hard for me.
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03-29-2024, 11:13 AM | #98 | |
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But this change got lost in the thread on dealing with the Amazon's changes to the ability to download ebooks to the computer--at least to some readers. |
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Nope. Download & Transfer always gives you mobi or azw3, never KFX. You'll get KFX if you pull the files directly off a Kindle, but that's not Download & Transfer.
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03-29-2024, 01:56 PM | #100 |
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And most of that mega-thread is from people who have not used calibre/DeDRM before.
Couple of nits you left out.
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Most people would not search for NoDRM. They will search for DeDRM and have trouble finding it. They won't know about the name NoDRM. That's why it can be very difficult to find the NoDRM version. For the majority it is difficult.
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When I type with quotes, I get the same. When I type without quotes, I get similar. But in either case, I do not get a link to NoDRM Git on the first page form Google.
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The link to NoDRM is in that thread. It's in the second post as I posted it. |
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